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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 10:42 (3039 days ago)

Is anyone from Norway, Sweden, Denmark or Finland going to the Nordic Championships 24-26 July? This year Norway is hosting the championships, and the shooting will take place at the Åsheim rifle range about 14 km Northeast of Moelv town on highway 216.

I will probably be there! :-)

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by Fabian23 ⌂, Switzerland, Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 08:52 (3038 days ago) @ Øyvind F.

Good luck! Do let me know how the kammerladers perform if any compete.... It seems breachloading percussion rifles have no recognised category in the international BP championships which is a shame.

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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 09:19 (3038 days ago) @ Fabian23

There are not competitions for kammerlader rifles in the Nordic championships, but in the Norwegian nationals you can shoot three kammerlader competitions:

  • 18 bore military kammerlader: Unmodified Norwegian 18 bore kammerlader
  • 4''' kammerlader: Unmodified military or civilian 4''' Norwegian kammerlader
  • Breech-loading percussion: Competition for breech-loading percussion firearms that do not fit into the competitions above, such as Sharps, Hall etc.

I have used 80 grains of Wano Fg in my kammerlader, but last weekend I switched to 80 grains of Swiss #5. The accuracy was mediocre, so I have a job to do before the nationals start. I used the Lee bullet wrapped in a pillar breech paper cartridge. Some pictures:

Bowl of rolled cartridges:

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Paper cartridges:

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Dipping in molten lube (mix of 1 part coconut butter, 1 part beeswax and some olive oil):

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Drying:

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by Fabian23 ⌂, Switzerland, Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:08 (3037 days ago) @ Øyvind F.

Nice,

The Dutch national disciplines mirror the International ones so I can not use the KL or monkey-tail in any competitions unless I use them as muzzleloaders or as breechloaders in which they are not really suited :-(

I also used the patched LEE bullet, it works quite well, not yet as good as a round ball but getting there. I also tried the LEE without patch which was useless.

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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Thursday, May 28, 2009, 11:14 (3037 days ago) @ Fabian23

We also shoot according to the international MLAIC muzzleloader regulations, but we have incorporated the above mentioned competitions into the national rules. In addiditon we have competitions for original and replica metallic cartridge rifles and revolvers. I'd suggest that you try to do the same in the Netherlands. It's great fun and also contributes to the recruiting of new muzzleloading shooters.

I have shoot the NEI bullet "naked" with good results in my kammerlader before, and I will probably try a couple of loads with that bullet without paper patching next time.

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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Sunday, August 02, 2009, 13:36 (2971 days ago) @ Øyvind F.

July has been a busy month with the Norwegian nationals and the Nordic championship.

Norwegian nationals
It started very well for me during the Norwegian nationals with one silver and two bronze medals. The silver came in the 18 bore kammerlader competition where I scored 88 points. I learned a new trick two days before the competition which proved very useful and diminished my groups dramatically. The trick was a kind of 'gas check" which is used between the powder and the ball. The pictures should explain the principle. I used the bullet from the group buy here at svartkrutt.net and 90 grains of Wano Fg. No grease in the grooves, but a bit of bore butter over the bullet.

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The bronze came in the Remington replica competition where I scored 98 points out 100 with the Shiloh Sharps. Three other shooters also had 98, but my group was larger than the other two. The second bronze was secured in the Minié original competition where I equalled the current Norwegian record at 85 points. Because of the low number of shooters in Minié original I was transferred to the replica class where I got the bronze.

I was also very happy with being number four in the percussion revolver competition (Mariette) with 86 points and the black powder cartridge handgun replica competition with 83 points.

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A week ago Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and Finnish black powder shooters met in Åsheim, Norway to compete in the Nordic championship.

On the first day the clay shoot was held, in which I participated as a scorer. The video below shows Per Zachrisson from Sweden shooting and loading his shotgun.

The second day I shot one competition, the fairly new Lamarmora, which is basically Minié original shot offhand at 50 metres. I won this class with a mediocre 88 point score, but I was transferred to the replica competition and finished at 9th place.

The Sunday started with Remington match and Remington original, the black powder cartridge rifle competitions. I did really badly in Remington match, using my Sharps. I ended up with with 85 points, far away from my 98 score from the previous nationals. In Remington original I used my 12 mm Husqvarna rolling block and scored 81 points, which is a personal best. However, I think I ended at 10th place or something like that in the end. Despite my poor result in Remington match I won a silver medal in the team competition for Norway's second team together with reldor and qualibra.

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Left to right: Me, reldor and qualibra

The great drama for me was to take place in the Minié original competition where I had announced my plans to shoot a new Norwegian national record. Since I had touched the record during the nationals and shot some encouraging training targets, I considered my chances to be fairly good. It opened quite well, and then I messed things up a bit in the middle, but finally secured a new record with a 10 in the last shot. The new record is now 88 points, three points better than the last one.

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Me with the record targets.

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The two targets merged together.

Because at least three nations have to compete in a class for the shooters to get a medal, I was once again transferred to the replica class. I ended up as number four out of 29 shooters in the merged Minié competition with my sturdy Pattern 1856 Tower Enfield, made in 1858, beaten by two Swedes and two Finns, all shooting replica rifle muskets.

The video below shows me training with the P-1856 two days before the championships:

In this competition I was also in the Norway's second national team, and here we also secured silver, only beaten by Sweden. Norway's first team took the bronze.

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by Fabian23 ⌂, Switzerland, Monday, August 03, 2009, 09:20 (2970 days ago) @ Øyvind F.

Nice going!

Can you give me the dimensions of that card gas check disc? Diameter and card thickness?

thanks

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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Monday, August 03, 2009, 10:07 (2970 days ago) @ Fabian23

The diameter is 25 mm. I'm not quite sure about the thickness, but they are made from Norwegian milk carton.

Here is a target with two groups I've shot with these wads at 100 metres, prone with sling support:

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by reldor @, Moss, Wednesday, August 05, 2009, 18:41 (2968 days ago) @ Fabian23

Here are the tool to make gas chek from a pre cut disc, home made in a lathe...
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by Fabian23 ⌂, Switzerland, Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:54 (2963 days ago) @ reldor

Wow, that is really neat! I'll have to sort out something a bit more basic since I don't have a lathe.

Btw Oyvind, I never got anywhere with your friend concerning Danish snider cases :-( Now looking to see if anyone could turn some from scratch.

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by Red Crow @, Almere, Netherlands, Thursday, April 22, 2010, 23:59 (2708 days ago) @ Øyvind F.

Can shooters from other countries ( for instance the Netherlands) also take part?

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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Friday, April 23, 2010, 06:10 (2708 days ago) @ Red Crow

I don't see any problems with foreigners participating, but I'm not sure of the exact rules. Shooters outside of Scandinavia cannot be Nordic champions, of course. The Nordic 2010 takes place in Copenhagen, Denmark. If you want to participate I suggest you contact the Danes. The Danish black powder shooter's web page is http://sortkrudt.dk

Foreign shooters have participated in the Norwegian nationals before, but they cannot be Norwegian champions or receive any medals. This year the nationals is in Trondheim.

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by Fabian23 ⌂, Switzerland, Friday, April 23, 2010, 07:39 (2707 days ago) @ Øyvind F.

Does it help if we wear a viking helmet and bring a crate of fine Dutch gin? ;-)

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by Øyvind F. ⌂ @, Bergen, Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:40 (2707 days ago) @ Fabian23

Dutch alcoholic beverages are of course welcome – if you want to dress like a clown, feel free do do so as well :-D

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